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来源:美国JRS之声

编辑:虎扑体育



我知道科比打铁的原因是什么!


When I saw this article about Kobe airballing shots, I decided to look into it to see if it was going to point out what I saw. Of course the article says he's missing these shots because he's past his prime, and I'm not doubting that part. But I'm not entirely sure his body has actually given up on him. I think Kobe doesn't trust his body so he's trying something new

当我看到这篇关于科比投篮三不沾的文章,我决定点进去看看内容有没有说到点上。当然里面说到老科已经过了巅峰期,打铁也是人之常情,这点我也认同。但我不能断定他的身体状况已属于强弩之末了。我认为他对自己的身体没信心,所以在试着做一些改变。


Now if you look here you'll find a video of Durant doing the short hop into his jumper. If you search it online you'll find all the benefits from it

If you just search short hop shooting or something on YouTube, you'll find a ton of videos on it.

Here's why the short hop is good:

1. The short hop gives the player more power on his shot

2. The short hop adds to consistency in your shot

3. The short hop helps you shoot faster

可以看一下杜兰特的跳投,他每次跳投之前会有一个小的跳步动作。你上网查一下就知道这样做有何获益了。

小跳步有什么好处呢

1. 小跳步让球员有更充分的力量出手

2. 小跳步让你的投篮更稳定

3. 小跳步让你投篮更快


Kobe is famously known as a 2 motion shooter - this is from ShotMechanics. If you know about 2 motion shooting then you know it is a much slower shot and for most people there's not as much power since it's not all happening in one motion. This is something Kobe has been aware of and with people like Kevin Durant making the short hop look fantastic out there, it would only make sense that Kobe adds the short hop into his game, right? And if you go to article talking about how Kobe is airballing 3s, you'll see how he's adding the short hop to his game

科比的投射是典型的2次发力型。这是一种比正常投篮要慢很多的投篮,而且对于大多数人来说这样投篮力度不够因为这不是一次性完成的动作。老科意识到了这点,然后还有像杜兰特这样的球员让小跳步看起来很酷炫,所以老科也会去用小跳步对吧?然后你再回头去看一下老科三不沾三分的文章,你就会发现他已经在用小跳步了。



But the short hop isn't the problem. As noted here by Pro Shot Shooting System Kobe Bryant pretty much added the hop into his game back in 2012. But what's important to note here is how Kobe borrowed the move from Kevin Durant in the first place. This is important to my observation

不过问题并不在于小跳步。从专业投篮系统网站可以看出蜗壳2012年已经在用小跳步了。重要的是老科从杜兰特这里学来的小跳步,这是我发现最重要的地方。



2012 was also after the Mavs won the title and Dirk received a ton of recognition for his trademark fadeaway. Shooters saw how dominate he was with this move so they decided to add it to their game. If you think of the top players who immediately added it to their game, you see that they were Durant, Kobe, and Melo

Now keep this in mind: Kobe is borrowing and using moves of Dirk, Durant, and all the other legends before...and we can see all of this in the 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 season. Kobe is having success with these moves. But then what happens?

2012年小牛夺得总冠军后,德克的标志性后仰跳投得到了很多认可。投手们觉得这招太无解了都开始偷师德克。想想那些顶级球员你立刻发现像杜兰特,科比,甜瓜都学了这招。

记住:老科现在学了德克,杜兰特和以前那些传奇的投篮技巧,我们从12和13赛季看得出老科从这些动作受益匪浅,然后呢?


In 2013 Kobe goes down with the achilles injury, right? We say he's never going to be the same, and right now it looks that way. The article talking about how he's airballing 3s makes it seem that way as well. But there's something just way different with his shooting now than before...

Since his injury there's been one great shooter who's popped up. We all know who this is. It's Steph Curry. Now, Kobe is the kind of guy who'll see a great move from a player and just take it because he knows it'll make him better. Kobe took the short hop from Durant and the fadeaway from Jordan and Dirk...and a ton of other moves from other players. So what is it that Curry has that Kobe doesn't?

Curry has a faster release than Kobe. Kobe is a 2 motion shooter while Curry is a well known One motion shooter. His shooting is all one motion.

2013蜗壳肌腱受伤。我们说蜗壳不会是原来那个蜗壳了,现在就是这样。那篇三不沾的文章也是这么认为的。不过他的投篮和以前实在是大相径庭。

老科受伤后另一个伟大的射手出现了。我们都知道那就是库里。老科是那种看到一个厉害的绝招就要从那个球员里学来的球员,因为他知道这样才能进步。老科从杜兰特这里学来了小跳步,从乔丹和德克那里学来了后仰,还从各种其他球员学来了各种动作。所以库里有什么是蜗客没有的呢?

库里比老科的出手更快。老科投篮是2次发力的投射而库里是1次发力类似颠投的推射。投篮基本靠推。。。



I think Kobe is struggling with his shot because he's trying to shoot more like a one motion shooter like Steph Curry. Go to this article on Kobe airballing shot and watch how Kobe is shooting the ball. Compare that to Kobe back before his injury in this video on him shooting nothing but 3s

我觉得老科投篮有问题因为他想像库里这样完成推射。看看老科三不沾的视频再对比一下他受伤之前的投篮动作。


In the video before his injury you see how Kobe pauses before actually releasing his shot. This is the two motion shooting. But in the article they pulled clips of him not doing it as much. It's hard to explain unless you look at it, but it makes a world of difference. Going from a two motion shot to a one motion shot isn't that bad if you're just at home practicing, because you don't have that many variables to through you off. But pulling that off in game is very difficult because Kobe holding the ball longer in his two motion shooting helps him aim. If you go from a two motion shot to a one motion shot at game speed, that's the equivalent of just chucking the ball up and hoping you make it. That's why Kobe is airballing and missing what were once easy shots.

受伤前的老科出手前会有短暂的停顿。这就是投射。在视频里你会发现他不怎么投射了。这个你不仔细看的话很难解释,不过这完全是两个世界的投篮。习惯了投射在家练习推射不会有什么问题,因为不会有其他各种因素干扰你。不过在比赛里就不一样了,老科拿球时间更长,这样他的投射才能好好瞄准。如果你在比赛的快节奏里从投射换成推射,那就等于你随便把球扔出去希望你能投进一样。这就是为什么老科一直三不沾和空位打铁。

  • The key is to look at how Kobe is missing and not just the fact that he's missing and I strongly believe that the how he is missing can be attributed to the fact that he's trying to borrow one motion shooting from Curry. I also don't think it has much to do with his age and legs because Kobe isn't just missing shots because they're short..he's completely missing the rim. Age doesn't do that to you. Not when you practice as much as he does, because if age was an issue, then he'd more than likely come up short more than overthrow the shot. But since one motion shooting can extend your range by giving you more power, it makes sense that he's overthrowing

    重点是观察老科怎么投出三不沾而不是他投了三不沾这个无法改变的事实。我敢平胸而论,他之所以三不沾是因为他想像库里那样推射投篮。我也不认为这和老科的年龄和腿的状态有关系,因为老科三不沾不是因为他不够力,而是因为他根本瞄不到筐。年龄不会干扰你的精准。特别是像老科练习过无数投篮的人,因为如果年龄是问题的话,那他很多球应该是投短了而不是投过了篮筐。然而推射会让你的射程变大因为力度会变大,所以老科投远了就是这个道理。

  • More miscellaneous proof If you look at the last video in the article talking about him airballing, you see him go for a quick release. Signs of quick releasing in most players is how they don't hold their follow through, but they don't hold their follow through all the time. It's not situational, so it's not like they drop their arms off the dribble. But here, Kobe is a standstill and he's not holding his follow through. In that 3 point shooting compilation I linked in here, you see him holding his follow through way more often than not. So why is he not doing it in 2015?

    Also, Kobe, imo, has a low arcing shot. To me it's always looked kind of low. You can't really notice it because of the camera angles and shooting 3s, but when he shoots 2s, it looks really low. It could also be because of the fact that he's a 2-motion shooter which requires you to jump higher to put the ball in...you don't need as much arc for that while shooting wide open shots (especially when you're 6'6'

    Also just watch this video in general to see how Kobe has a true two motion shot in 2011 and here is slow motion on his shot.

    更多证据体现在老科三不沾的视频里你会发现他的出手很快。很多球员快速出手都不会继承他们的投篮动作,问题是他们从不会有投篮的连贯动作。这不是条件性的。不过在这里面你会发现老科也没有投篮的后续动作。在受伤之前的视频里你会发现他一直有投篮后续动作,所以为什么2015年没有了呢?

    而且我觉得老科的投篮弧度很低。【去年论坛里有提到过这点】不过这哥们说只是现在看起来弧度低。我觉得老科投篮弧度一直都很低。你可能不会发现因为摄像视角和3分的原因,不过当他中投的时候,他的弧度看起来特别低。当然很可能是因为他是投射投篮,这让你跳到更高才出手。所以你不需要很高的弧度来把球投进去,更何况你是一个6尺6的球员。


People know so much more about basketball than me

卧槽,大家都好懂球,我简直无地自容。

  • I have noticed that he's shooting it a bit differently

    I also think that Kobe's possibly the only player in NBA history who people think are continously willing to change his game even in his 20th season ha.

    湖蜜:我也注意到了他的投射稍有一些不同了。

    我觉得科比可能是联盟历史上唯一一个打了20个赛季后还愿意改进比赛方式的球员。




对于科比执着于篮球的精神,JRS都如何评价的?


@小小神虫Cc:

原来科比还想进步卧槽。。。


@我防迈克尔:

当年第一个去拜师大梦的人,后来被司机虐了后就学了金鸡独立,现在老了又改进投射技术,科比对篮球是真的热爱,二十年如一日,这种精神,做什么都能成功。。。


@灯火中原:

科比真是活到老学到老


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