During a conversation with Angella Nazarian on what it means to be a visionary and a volunteer, Sadhguru looks at how the key to taking charge of your life is to become willing - to become an absolute YES to life!
在与安杰拉·纳扎里安（Angella Nazarian）的对话中，萨古鲁谈到了做一个有远见的人和志愿者意味着什么，他谈到了为何掌控自己生命的关键是变得愿意——对生命绝对的愿意！
Angella Nazarian: Visionary Women is a volunteer run organization. And I know that every single person who is here is giving their time to one organization or another and the fact that you have nine million volunteers and you were talking about the relationship between volunteerism and willingness. And that it's through willingness that you uplift your consciousness, if I'm reporting you correctly, or I'm understanding it. In some ways, talking about how it could be a doorway to becoming a bigger person than who you are.
Angella Nazarian：“有远见的女性”是一个由志愿者运作的组织。我知道这里的每个人都把自己的时间给这个或那个组织，你有九百万个志愿者，而你曾谈过志愿者精神与意愿之间的关系。以及，你正是通过意愿来提升你的意识——如果我转述正确的话，或者我理解正确的话。某种程度上，你是谈论这怎样作为一扇门使你成为一个比现在更伟大的人。
Sadhguru: See.. Before we come to women, first thing is visionary. What a vision means is, say everybody has desires. Desire is an incremental way of enhancing our life. Today you desire, I must have a home, tomorrow you desire, I must have this money, tomorrow, you desire something else. These are incremental ways of arranging and rearranging our lives which are needed to do a few things.
Sadhguru（萨古鲁）：看……在我们谈论女性之前，首先是有远见。远见的意思是，例如每个人都有欲望。欲望是以一种递增的方式来提升我们的生活。今天你渴望，我必须要有一个家，明天你渴望，我必须有这笔钱，明天，你又渴望其它的东西。这些都在以递增的方式来安排和再安排我们的生活，这在做某些事情时是需要的。
When you say I'm a visionary, what you're saying is, I have a larger desire which is not about just incremental improvement of my life. Desire is about me, always. Vision is an all-inclusive process. So this itself is a phenomenal thing, if people instead of having desires, if they have a vision. Vision is always all-inclusive. Desire is personal. Desire leads to incremental changes and improvements. Vision can transform the whole situation. (Music) (Laughter) I like music. (Laughter)
当你说，我是一个有远见的人，你是在说，我有一个更大的渴望，不是仅仅关于逐步改善我的生活。欲望总是关于我。远见是包容一切的一个进程。所以这本身就是一件非凡的事情，如果人们不是有欲望，而是有了远见，远见总是包容一切的。欲望是个人的。欲望带来逐步的变化和改善。远见可以转变整个局面。（音乐）（笑声）我喜欢音乐。（笑声）
So, about willingness, because you said you're a volunteer. To be a volunteer, a volunteer means somebody who is doing something willingly, right? There's no other compulsion. There are no financial compulsions. There are no social compulsions. There is no something else. You want to do something willingly. So when you're a willing participant right now, you're a volunteer. I'm asking all of you, right now, are you compelled to be here or are you here voluntarily?
那么，关于意愿，因为你说你是一个志愿者。作为一个志愿者，志愿者意味着在心甘情愿做某事的人，对吧？没有其它的强迫。没有经济上的强迫。没有社交上的强迫。没有其它的了。你想心甘情愿地做某事。所以现在当你是一个自愿的参与者，你就是一个志愿者。我现在问你们所有人，你们是被迫来的，还是自愿来的？
Audience: Voluntarily.
观众：自愿。
Sadhguru: Oh, thank you. Because I have spoken to conscripted people also. I have spoken in the prisons, I have spoken in many places. So you are here willingly. You are doing something willingly, is the fundamental of your joy, isn't it so? Hello? However simple or stupid or idiotic activity it is, 'I am doing something willingly' makes a world of difference, isn't it so? Hello? The difference between heaven and hell is just this. You are doing something willingly, that's your heaven. You are doing something unwillingly, that's your hell. Hmm?
Sadhguru（萨古鲁）：噢，谢谢你们。因为我也对应征新兵讲过话。我也在监狱里讲过话，我在很多地方讲过话。所以你们是自愿来这儿的。你在心甘情愿地做事，是你喜悦的基础，不是吗？哈喽？无论它是多么简单、愚蠢或愚昧的行为，“我在心甘情愿地做事” 带来天壤之别，不是吗？哈喽？天堂和地狱的区别就在于此。你在心甘情愿地做事，那就是你的天堂。你在不情愿地做事，那就是你的地狱。嗯？
We have already taken on attitudes – what we like and what we don't like. I like this person, I don't like this person. Now with this person, I will do things willingly. With this person, I will do things unwillingly. This may be two people, two aspects of life, two communities, two nations, two.. many things. This I will do willingly, this I do unwillingly. This means, I have decided in my mind, this is good, this is bad.
我们已经采取既定的态度——我们喜欢什么，不喜欢什么。我喜欢这个人，我不喜欢这个人。现在和这个人在一起，我会很情愿地做事。和这个人在一起，我会不情愿地做事。这可能是两个人、生活的两个方面、两个社区、两个国家、两个……很多东西。这个我情愿做，这个我不情愿做。这意味着，我已经在头脑中决定了，这是好事，这是坏事。
When I hear, even on national news channels, good guys and bad guys... it just… Once you have this kind of thing, you are going to be disastrous to the planet. It's just a question of time. The moment you decide this is a good person, this is a bad person, this is gone deep into American society. No. There are no good people and bad people. Everybody is oscillating between the two. If you create a very pleasant wonderful atmosphere, everybody behaves wonderfully. If you create an unpleasant atmosphere, a whole lot of people act nasty. Yes or no?
当我听到，甚至是在国家新闻频道里，提到好人和坏人……只是……一旦你有了这种思维，你对这个星球将是灾难性的。只是时间的问题。一旦你决定这是一个好人，这是一个坏人，这已经深入到美国社会中了。不，没有好人和坏人。每个人都在这两者之间摇摆。如果你创造了一个非常愉快美妙的氛围，每个人的举止都很好。如果你创造了一种不愉快的氛围，很多人都会表现得很恶劣。对不对？
There are joyful people and miserable people, but there are no good people and bad people. (Applause) The moment we think we are good, we are entitled to destroy the bad, isn't it? Oh, we've been destroying a lot of people for a long time, time to stop that. Because…human beings are in different levels of experience and understanding. Variety of people. Anybody who's not like you is obviously bad, isn't it? Isn't it so? Those who are not like me must be bad people. Because the basis of goodness and what you think is goodness is decided by you. No, you have no business to do that.
世上有快乐的人和痛苦的人，但是没有好人和坏人之分。（掌声）一旦我们觉得我们是好人，我们就有权利去消灭坏人，不是吗？噢，长期以来，我们已经消灭很多人了，是时候停下了。因为……人们的体验和理解水平是各不相同的。各种各样的人。任何和你不一样的人显然都是坏人，不是吗？不是这样吗？那些和我不同的人一定是坏人。因为好的基础和你所认为的好是由你决定的。不，你没有权利那样做。
Willing means this. I'm just willing. I'm a hundred percent yes to life. I am not yes to this one, no to this one. No, I am just yes and yes to life. If you are a hundred percent yes to life, you are a volunteer. You have become a willing life. You have become so willing that you have no will of your own. People ask me 'Sadhguru, how do you operate with all these people, all kinds of horrible questions they're asking, they're doing this, they're doing that?' I said 'My life is not about them. It's about me' It's about how I am. This is about me. It doesn't matter how they are, that's their choice. But how I am is my choice. This is my way. No matter what they do. I'm like this.
愿意意味着，我只是愿意。我对生命百分之百愿意。我不是对这个愿意，对这个不愿意。不，我对生命就是愿意和愿意。如果你对生命百分之百愿意，你就是一个志愿者。你成为了一个心甘情愿的生命。你变得如此愿意以至于你没有了个人的意愿。人们问我：“ 萨古鲁，你是如何与这么多人一起共事的，他们问各种可怕的问题，他们做这个，做那个？”我说：“我的生命不是关于他们，是关乎我自己。”关乎我是一个怎样的生命。这关乎我。别人如何并不重要，那是他们的选择。但我是一个怎样的生命是我的选择。这是我的方式。不管他们做什么。我仍是这个样子。
Because I have not given that freedom to anybody that somebody can freak me, somebody can make me angry, somebody can make me happy, somebody can make me unhappy. These privileges I kept to myself. It's time you do that too. Because if somebody else can decide what can happen within you right now, isn't this the ultimate slavery? Hmm? Isn't this? Someone else can decide what should happen within you, what happens around you of course, so many people decide, hmm? What happens around us is not hundred percent ours, but what happens within me must be my making, isn't it?
因为我没有给任何人这一自由——有人可以刺激我，有人可以让我生气，有人可以让我开心，有人可以让我不开心。这些特权我留给自己。是时候你也那样做了。因为，如果别人能决定你的内在此刻发生什么，这难道不是终极的奴役吗？嗯？不是吗？其他人能决定你的内在应该发生什么，在你的周围发生什么，当然是，如此多的人可以决定，嗯？我们周围发生什么不是百分之百地由我们决定的，但是在我内在发生的一切，必须由我产生，不是吗？
Right now, just about anybody can freak anybody because they are not volunteers. They are unwilling. Volunteering means you have no will of your own. You can do whatever is needed. You know, we are a volunteer organization, this means all kinds of people... (Laughs) Most of them are not qualified for the jobs that they're doing. (Laughter) And I cannot fire them because they're volunteers. (Laughter)
现在，几乎任何人都可以刺激其它任何人，因为他们不是志愿者。他们不愿意。做志愿者意味着你没有了个人的意愿。你可以做任何需要做的。你知道，我们是一个志愿者组织，这意味着有各种各样的人……（笑）他们中的大多数人并没有他们所做工作的相关资历。（笑）而且我还不能解雇他们，因为他们是志愿者。（笑）
Angella Nazarian: It's true.
Angella Nazarian：是这样。
Sadhguru: So people keep coming up to me on 'Sadhguru, I can't work with this person, she is so horrible, I can't do it' a daily basis, I tell them 'See in this world, this is the sort of people who exist. like this, like this, like this, like this, this is the kind of people there are. But if you want to work with ideal people, you must go to heaven and today. But if you think, what you're doing is very significant, you must learn to work with all these horrible people. This is how the world is.
Sadhguru（萨古鲁）：所以每天人们都来找我，“萨古鲁，我无法和这个人一起工作，她太可怕了，我做不到”，我告诉他们 “看，在这个世界上，就是存在这样的人。像这样的，这样的，这样的，这样的，存在的就是这样的人。如果你想和理想的人一起工作，你必须去天堂，今天就去。但是如果你认为，你在做的事非常重要，你必须学着和所有这些可怕的人一起工作。世界就是这个样子的。
If you think what you're doing is very significant, you learn to work with all kinds of people. You will see, horrible people will do wonderful things. Yes? But if you want to work with ideal people, you won't find any. I haven't found one yet. (Laughter) There're all kinds of... mixed bags, but if you are willing, that you are not yes and no, yes to one, no to another, you're simply one big yes, you will find a way.
如果你认为你在做的事非常重要，你学着和各种各样的人一起工作。你会看到，可怕的人会做出很棒的事情。对吗？但是如果你想和理想的人一起工作，你一个也找不到，我迄今一个也没发现。（笑声）这里有各种各样的……大杂烩。但是如果你愿意，你不是愿意而又不愿意，不是对这个愿意，对另一个不愿意，你就纯粹地是一个大大的愿意，你就会找到办法。
Angella Nazarian: Thank you so much. I always say that the resistance... (Applause)
Angella Nazarian：非常感谢。我总是说……（掌声）
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